Don't miss a very interesting
post over at Normblog. It ranges over a few topics, mostly very well. Here is Norm on sovereignty. After making clear that sovereignty is an important value, he writes:
Yet every - or maybe it's nearly every - value has its limits, has sometimes to be made an exception to, and the principle of sovereignty comes under this general rule. There is an established lineage of moral thinking about international affairs, including thinking specifically within the tradition of international law, that respect for national sovereignty, as important as it is, does have its limits. These limits are set high. They do not permit one state to invade another merely because the former disapproves of the latter's internal policies, or because 'we' don't share some of 'their' values or customs or practices, or because some of those strike us as, or indeed are, bad. However, beyond a certain threshold of what I will call, for short, basic humanity, where a state has begun to violate on a large scale some of the most basic rights and/or needs and/or requirements that go with any kind of tolerable existence, then that state is no longer to be seen as enjoying the protection of the principle of national sovereignty.
I have said much the same thing for several years, and I remember saying so repeatedly during the lead-up to the war in the class I taught on just war theory. In general, then, I always thought it was wrong to base opposition to the war on some sort of respect for Iraq's sovereignty.
Still, a few things are worth noting here. One is that although Norm is hearkening back to a long tradition in international affairs, in fact he's proposing a significant departure from it. Norm is right that the tradition refuses to recognize sovereignty as an absolute value, but he doesn't mention that the tradition sets the bar higher than he apparently wants it. The tradition has always insisted that sovereignty only be compromised by an ongoing and massive humanitarian crisis. It has never countenanced interventions against totalitarian states, no matter how barbaric and cruel. And by the time the U.S. and Britain got around to invading Iraq, the mass graves were already full with people long dead. Perhaps the best shot at establishing an ongoing crisis would be to point to the destruction of the marshlands in the South. But even that falls well short of the standard traditionally insisted on. Now, as a matter of fact, I'm inclined to draw the threshold much closer to where Norm draws it. But I don't think there's much point in representing that view as in any way traditional. I think Norm and I should just admit that our moral intuitions here are pretty revisionary in spirit.
The second thing to note is that for all my sympathy with Norm's point, I still think it's important not to lose grip of why in general our intuitions about sovereignty have traditionally been so robust, even in the face of serious injustice. We have to be careful not to suppose that the case for sovereignty rests solely on the intrinsic merits of the state which claims it. For it may have value apart from that.
To focus your thoughts on this point, forget that the U.S. and Britain overthrew Saddam, and imagine that Iran had done it instead, and had done it citing Norm's point about Iraq's sovereignty as part of the defence of their behaviour. Iran's case would be, essentially, look, you yourself admit that Iraq's sovereignty counts for nothing, so why are you objecting to our violating it? In fact, on your account, there's not much "it" to violate here.
Even those of us who hate Saddam Hussein might well have objected to such a war, and for many of the reasons many of us objected to the recent one: we wouldn't trust Iran to promote democracy; we would fear that new powerful and destructive forces would be unleashed which might bring even more harm to the people of Iraq; and so on. But we might well also say, on top of all that: Look, just because Iraq's sovereignty is intrinsically worthless, doesn't give just anyone the right to violate it. Which is another way of saying, perhaps Iraq's sovereignty counted for something after all, even if the regime was perfectly undeserving of respect.
I'm not supposing here, even for the sake of argument that the U.S. and Britain are morally on par with Iran. (Nor am I saying that they are not. I don't want to argue about that today.) The point is that we might start out very sceptical about Iraq's sovereignty if we saw it as entirely dependent on the character of the regime, and end up feeling that it had some real (though not absolutely, obviously) force, even in spite of everything we know about the regime.
So although I have long been sympathetic to Norm's views here, I'm also ready to admit that I haven't been able yet to pin down my views with any confidence.
Norm's post is also interesting for its argument that the anti-war movement should move on. He writes:
Those who opposed the war in the full knowledge, or some reasonable level of knowledge, of the character and record of the Saddam regime, had their reasons; and while some of these reasons weren't good ones, some of them also were: amongst which I would put the concern about international law, the principle of adhering to established multilateral procedures and the fears about the level of likely casualties, both civilian and military. I would hypothesize, however, that with many if not all of the opponents of the war who were genuinely attached to these considerations and not merely using them as a cynical cover for something else, there will have been some sense of, some feeling for, the considerations pulling in the other direction, the ones that I've invoked above under the formula of a common humanity. So my suggestion is as follows. People who opposed the war but with a proper sense of the other considerations, the ones that moved us left-liberal supporters of the war, should be willing to move on. All said and done, they didn't agree with what was done, but what was done removed a scourge and they will recognize that and look to what is now the best possible course forward for the people of Iraq. And those, on the other hand, who can't move on? It's hard not to conclude that what they want is an alibi. It seems that the considerations which moved us to support the war were not only outweighed for them by their reasons against the war; they just don't count for very much at all. If that's how you think, then you better make real sure that people are talking about something else.
Again, there's a lot to that. In fact, in a way it reminds me of an email I recently wrote to a friend inviting me to a march called "We STILL Oppose the War". Listen to what a pill I can be:
I found the sticker in my mailbox as you promised. I confess I am a bit disappointed that the movement has not come up with a more compelling slogan behind which to rally. The world "STILL" says no to war? Putting the "STILL" in caps makes it a bit more emphatic, but it's not enough to disguise the essential lameness of the message.
Back before the war, I was proud to march against it, even if I wasn't always comfortable with the company I was keeping. And I thought it was completely stupid to say, as the critics did, that we should have been protesting Saddam's outrages, or whatever.
But, dude, this march is, like, so 2003! And while it was a terrible mistake, the war also created an opportunity. If the slogan were "Now really deliver democracy to the Middle East" or something like that and we got to ding the Prez for hanging out with Tunisian dictators I'd be all over it. As it is . . .
As well as being the wrong message substantively, I think it's also a bit maladroit politically. The message is not just negative (which is fine sometimes, especially since placards are usually too small to write much on), it's also retrospective in a way that isn't particularly effective. There are far better ways to frame the issue so that it remains a powerful political argument against Bush and co. E.g., a march against the current commission to investigate intelligence failures. That's a bit subtle, but at least then you'd be urging something constructive (i.e., get a real commission, bucko).
I dunno, but I think on March 20th I'ma gonna sit on my duff and blog.
Your politically unreliable friend,
cy
So obviously I agree with part of Norm's message. I think as far as the people of Iraq go, we ought to recognize a real opportunity. That means, among other things, strongly supporting measures to build democracy there, wherever possible.
But in other ways, I think it would be downright unhealthy for anyone to move on. The fact is that Tony Blair, for example, is a liar: He lied about when the decision to go to war was made. He lied about the evidence. He lied about the rationale for war. He's still lying about the threat posed by Iraq. He lied about the costs of the war. And where he didn't lie, he still screwed up. And so did Bush's administration, except much, much more so. These are not your run of the mill "Who did you play hide the salami with this week?" lies. They are lies which were essential to selling a war, which is the gravest decision a country's leadership can make. To walk away from this because a few months have elapsed, and anyway, some real good might come of it, would be to reward behaviour that a healthy political culture should never tolerate. And that, I think, is one of the reasons that the lies about WMD ought to remain important - even if I turn out to be entirely mistaken about the consequences of the war, and Iraq does very well for itself over the next few years. Even if you think the war has had superb results, I think your attitude should be: Thank you and good bye.
(To anticipate an objection: Norm and others probably don't think that Blair lied, or lied as much as I think he lied. Fine. But remember that the people Norm is asking to move on do believe that Blair lied. So one question is, given that assumption is it reasonable to move on from bashing Blair? And the answer, I think, is no.)
(Of course, another reason to thoroughly investigate the intelligence failures is that credibility on this issue is
extremely important as the U.S. and Britain attempt to fight against terrorism. Only a very careful housecleaning will help to restore credibility now, and that, by itself, is enough reason not to let go of this issue.)
UPDATE: After sleeping on it, I found myself wondering whether my claims about Blair's lack of honesty had been too harsh. To be honest, I haven't followed Blair nearly as closely as Bush, but here is how it seems to me.
I think it is clear that Bush decided to go to war against Iraq sometime in the late Spring of 2002. I think many people knew that, including for example
King Abdullah of Jordan. These people knew perfectly well that the decision had already been made, and almost nothing would avert it. And so they also knew that the monkey business with the UN and the inspectors and so on was for show, that it wouldn't influence the outcome either way. And these people - people like Blair and Powell - played their part, as good cop to Rumsfeld's bad cop during the buildup to the war. And in this way they participated in a dishonest selling of the war.
Now, that's not to say that the principals thought Iraq harmless and wanted to invade anyway. The general view that Iraq was dangerous was surely widely held. But they all lied about the specifics, whether it was Colin Powell making false claims about the consensus in the intelligence community about the aluminum tubes, or Tony Blair's 45 minute claim (and please don't tell me he only said it once: it was repeated endlessly once he said it).
I have no idea what the inside of Tony Blair's head is like. But I do think that there's an abundance of evidence to suggest that he led his country into war without the sort of full and frank discussion of the reasons for it and the costs. And that is a very serious thing to do.
Now Blair wants to emphasize the humanitarian aspect of the war. And you might think: Ah, the war did so much good that I'm prepared to tolerate a little bit of trickery here and there to bring about so much good. Would you disagree?
And I must concede that there are times when I suppose it is necessary to lie, if some overwhelming good comes of it. But notice that it's probably even more necessary to be honest about the costs and rationale of a humanitarian war than one fought for straightforward reasons of national interest. For the success of a humanitarian war - and this one in particular - depends very much on the support of the people, and when they discover that they didn't get the war they bargained on they are less likely to support it. And that matters too.
I think all this sticks, even when you're quite fussy about distinguishing between false claims made sincerely and lies. And, as I said above, even if you are very happy with the outcome of the war, you should see that it doesn't speak well for a political community if it puts up with this sort of thing.